Thiefs..I want to kill em

[FlintTony]

Just a quick note, from the wifes computer. Scum-sucking criminals got into the shop. Stole numerous guns, tools, my computer. More later.

Didn't mean to ignore the other posts. Been hectic.

[carpoor]

Damnit man...

[shadowgray396]

Sorry to hear thst.

[SS Shaun]

wow dude that sucks!! hope they can recover most of your stuff!!

[BillsCamino]

Damn...I hate thieves!!!
My shop out behind the house is monitored by ADT...as is the house. The shop also has motion detecting flood lights on all corners.
Never been any criminal issues around here but 'ya never know...

[FlintTony]

Cops are working at this. They took prints, but it looks like they wore the gloves they stole from the glove-box of the Gator. We found one glove, one pistol case, and the computer cord in the neighbors back yard. I have a new Dell laptop that I despise. I can't get anything to work like the one they stole. Dell tech is so bad, I'm think I want to just smash this piece of shit and buy something else. No English speaking MF idiots. I can't get my email contacts, deleted email or storage folders back. None of the non-English speaking MF fools can figure it out.

[Ms Grumpy]

I am so sorry Tony. I know how frustrating it is to lose the information that you have stored on your computer. I am glad that no one was hurt. I hope that they find your stuff.

[flash]

Tony ,I hope you at least get some of your stuff back but it would be even better if you could catch the BASTARDS and hang them by their balls .

[FlintTony]

I appreciate the comments. I got a good lead on the pieces of shit this afternoon. Then I sorta lost my head and went looking for them in a rage. Kathy was real upset that I went, I didn't find them where I thought they would be, came home and Kathy sorta asked me to call the Det, he said I can't hunt them myself. He don't want me to get into trouble is what he keeps saying.

[grandsport]

I would not waste a homicide charge and possible jail time on a common thief.

[Hank70SS]

Tony, listen to Kathy. I know how you feel but you don't want to make a bad situation worse. Get that alarm system working and the doors secured, let the police take care of the rest. I don't want to come visit you in jail.

[RBeckman]

Tony, listen to Kathy. I know how you feel but you don't want to make a bad situation worse. Get that alarm system working and the doors secured, let the police take care of the rest. I don't want to come visit you in jail.

Ditto....you may not like your roommate in the Genesee County Jail.

[FlintTony]

Been scouring the neighborhood all morning for info on the lead I got yesterday. May have come up with something good. Will let the Det handle it tomorrow. I sure as hell want to do my own hunting, but cooler heads have made me slow down some.

[grandsport]

Listen to me also! Lol

[Ms Grumpy]

Hoping that your lead finds the sorry SOB's that stole from you.

[FlintTony]

Frustrated bad. I gave the Det a 4 page report of things that I found out about here in the neighborhood last week. Yesterday, I gave him another 4 pager, with the names, phone numbers, addresses and face-book pages of the thieves. Almost 100% sure these are the guys. Lots of evidence. The Detective called me at 8 this morning. A citizen found my speed loader ,for the 5 shot undercover special, on the side of the road IN FRONT OF the house of the suspected thief. Also had an anonymous phone call to the Police Dept. this morning from a guy that knows waaay too much to be fake. Detective had court today so he couldn't mess with my case. I have all day to do what I want, but nooooooo, they won't let me go hunting the pieces of shit. I'm fit to be tied, I tell ya!!!Fit to be tied!!!!

[RBeckman]

How far are they from your house? Is the DET going to follow through?

[Ms Grumpy]

Contact one of the news stations and tell them your story. You never know might light a fire under the police department.

[Ms Grumpy]

Did the facebook pages have any of your stuff on them ?

[FlintTony]

One lives 1/4 mile from me, the other two live about a mile from me. The Det is supposed to bring the speedloader over this morning for me to identify, then go from there. The law works differently for the punks that are minors. If I even go to their places and question them, I can be arrested for "intimidating a minor". Nothing has shown up on FB with my stuff. Yet. These guys are stupid. One of them posted that he "hit a lick" the day after the burglary. In punk speak, that means he did a b&e.

[RBeckman]

The real big issue now is you have another stupid person out there with a stolen gun(s). I hope the detective takes this seriously and does something about it.

[FlintTony]

The real big issue now is you have another stupid person out there with a stolen gun(s). I hope the detective takes this seriously and does something about it.


Yep, you would think that would make the cops real excited about tracking these guys down. Doesn't seem to be the case. Det was here again this morning, he talked to the two kids down the road that yesterday were just full of running their mouth. They denied everything today, they are minors so he can't just take them in for questioning. He has to have the parents permission and the parents have to be there for the interviews. What a crock of shit. Oh yeah, I was warned again today about the trouble that I can get into due to "minor intimidation". Because I suspect the punks, and they know it now, all they have to do is say I threatened them and off to jail I go. I have to avoid intentional contact with them. Bizzaro world I tell ya, bizzaro. What little faith I had in the justice system is rapidly evaporating.

[mestorod70]

Hope you get your property back tony.
Did they break into your gun safe to get the guns.
On another note...I have a log book with all my serial numbers and value.
Also multiple pics on several computors just in case.

[FlintTony]

Hope you get your property back tony.
Did they break into your gun safe to get the guns.
On another note...I have a log book with all my serial numbers and value.
Also multiple pics on several computors just in case.

Thanks. I hope so too, but it isn't looking like the cops are working this case at all. Det was supposed to bring the speed loader they found over for me on Sunday to identify Thursday. Didn't hear from him at all. I left him a voicemail late this afternoon, hasn't called back. The Det dept works 9-5 on weekdays and only work weekends and overtime for homicides.
They didn't get into the safe. The handguns were all in cabinets or toolbox's. The shot-guns were in corners. Hidden pretty good I thought.
I too have a list of all my firearms. I had the "green cards" for all handguns. Some dated in the 70"s.
I hate thieves. They make me angry and then I go to my dark spot.

[Ms Grumpy]

Tony I wish that these cops would take you seriously. If one of these kids used one of the guns in a felony then they would be trying to cover their behinds. Let's hope that doesn't happen.

[Ms Grumpy]

Any news on getting your stuff back?

[FlintTony]

Any news on getting your stuff back?

No. The Detective STILL hasn't brought the speed loader over for me to identify. I offered to got to the PD two weeks ago and identify it, but he said it was locked up in the evidence locker. Then last week, the evidence tech got married and went on her honeymoon. He said he couldn't open the locker. I'm like, WTF, what is someone needs to lock up something? No one else has a key? Last Monday, one of the neighborhood kids was at the County Fair. A punk from the trailer park a few miles down the road offers to sell him two handguns, cheap, one is a 38, other is a 357. Both calibers that were stolen from here. He has PICTURES on his phone. I call the Det, give him the kids name and where he lives. Det says he can't look at the pictures without a warrant. I say, damn, at least go question the kid. He can't interview the punk without the parents consent. His dad is an asshole, won't let cops talk to kid. Like I said, I'm so disgusted with this PD and the "system" it isn't funny. I never should have got the cops involved in the first place. I think I'd have my stuff back and there would be some sorry little thiefs had I handled it myself.

[Ms Grumpy]

This is so ridiculous. Have you tried writing a letter to the prosecutors office explaining what is going on. I am wondering if you got a bad cop.

[FlintTony]

The main problems in this Township are lack of funds to have a bigger and better police force and the scum from Flint moving here. We have two Detectives to cover the entire Township. They are way behind on solving cases. The PD has been hit hard with crime rates increasing dramatically. The City of Flint was one of the most segregated in the State. The Feds, in their infinite wisdom, decided to diversify the whole area by moving the scum from the City to the suburbs. It has had dismal effects on us, and all the surrounding small communities. The section eight scum have destroyed the small town atmosphere here, just like every where else they have been moved to. Once beautiful neighborhoods are now shit holes, infested with the scum of the earth. When the scum started showing up, decent people were driven out of their neighborhoods, leaving many homes that were well cared for empty. The empty homes are now occupied by the scum, and most should be condemned. With the scum came increased crime, as always. I could go on and on, but most people reading this will know that I speak the truth, although the liberals and such refuse to see the real world for what it is. There was a damn good reason why it was so segregated around here.

[mestorod70]

I think stealing a firearm is a FEDERAL offence.
Perhaps the local FBI can light a fire under the PDs butt.

[FlintTony]

I think stealing a firearm is a FEDERAL offence.
Perhaps the local FBI can light a fire under the PDs butt.

I tried that route almost immediately. A good friend is the Undersheriff here in the County. I called and talked to him about all the B&E's here lately, asking for County help. Bottom line is politics. The Township doesn't want to seem like they can't handle this crime wave, so they will not ask for help. As far as the ATF, this is small potatoes to them, so they won't get involved.


I just left a local car show. A friends place, along with two others in the same subdivision, got hit for guns, knives, and tools Friday night. The more people that I talk to, the more stories I am hearing about just how bad it is getting around here. We, as a neighborhood, need some rights restored so we can protect our property and maybe some vigilante style justice be handed out. I will definitely approach the Township Board about all this shit at the next meeting. I attend almost of the meetings and haven't heard one thing about all this going on. I've had to do all my own investigating, which seems ridiculous to me.

[RBeckman]

Maybe a article to the Flint Journal will get something going....they love this kind of stuff.

[grandsport]

That crap should be locked up out of the reach of thieves,really can't blame them unless you have a safe

[grandsport]

In today's socialist regime what I say is more true than ever.The good old days are gone forever and you better be prepared for what is luring on the horizon.

[grandsport]

WavingThat is about the stupidest comment I have ever heard.

Why Thankyou ! My work here is done ! LolWaving

[Ms Grumpy]

I still think that you should contact the news. Even if it is to go to the Township Board Meeting and see how you are not getting anywhere with the police and what is going on in the community. It is just so frustrating to see what is going on. The people who have anything worth any value have to pay even more to protect your things. And even if you have an alarm system it still doesn't keep the theives out of their home. I am frustrated for Tony, these thieves are getting away with it because no one wants to talk.

Gary, I agree with flash on this one. I should be able to enjoy the things that I have instead of having to hide them. In that case why would I buy things in the first place.

On a personal note. Many years ago when times were tough for me I lived in Detroit. The day I moved into the house it was broken into and the thieves took my stuff still in boxes. As I met the few neighbors that would talk to me, I saw much of my stuff in their homes. I was told that it was not uncommon for the thieves to break into one house and go to the next to sell it. In the one year I lived there my home was broken into 13 times. I did not have the money to move and my brother Eric offered to help me get out by sharing a house with me in a better neighborhood. That was over 22 years ago and I still worry about my current home being broken into.

I now live in a nice community, with a great police department who responds within minutes. But I still park another car in front of my garage door because I want to wake up and still have my Malibu in the garage.

[Ms Grumpy]

I think we all need to remember that this thread is about helping Tony get his stuff back.

[FlintTony]

That crap should be locked up out of the reach of thieves,really can't blame them unless you have a safe

You can't be that stupid and ignorant to believe that. It's no wonder you are not welcome anywhere. I DO blame the thieves. Keep your dumb-assed comments to yourself. Unless you want to talk about thieves that sell shit-box cars, then deny any wrongdoing. Asshole. Yeah, your work here is done.

[Hank70SS]

That crap should be locked up out of the reach of thieves,really can't blame them unless you have a safe

You can't blame the thieves for stealing? You're well known for saying stupid shit and pissing people off. This one ranks as one of your better attempts, what an ass.

[Ms Grumpy]

Tony I also blame the thieves and their parents. Having lived in the city of Detroit many years ago I saw first hand how parents taught their children how to "use the system" to collect assistance. I also watched parents teach their kids how to break into a house and tell them that because they were minors that they could get away with it because the parents would not let the police talk to them. I saw 10 and 12 yr old kids breaking into houses. It was crazy. I hope you keep on the police and if nothing else, find and prosecute those little thugs.

[FlintTony]

The more research I do, they more pissed I am. Minors rights my ass. The Det spent fours on an interview with one of the suspects yesterday. Didn't get anywhere, the punks parents pretty much controlled the interview. Later in the afternoon, the punk sent threatening text messages to the kid he thinks told on him. Cops can't do anything about that either.

Yes, the parents are scum too. It seems like they let their precious babies run wild with absolutely no rules. Then get all pissy when the thugs are questioned about their 'activities". I've been looking through their facebook pages. I'm almost shocked at what these dumb asses post.

[Hank70SS]

...Later in the afternoon, the punk sent threatening text messages to the kid he thinks told on him. Cops can't do anything about that either...

Bull, they can too if the kid comes to them and shows them the texts. They may not, but they can if they want to. Minor or not there are laws about threatening people. Just like there are laws regarding theft. I think they're trying to cover their asses, make sure they don't violate anyone's rights.

[Ms Grumpy]

Let's just hope that these thugs post something on Facebook about any item they took from you. Maybe then the police will do something.

[FlintTony]

Some good news. I've been working on this almost daily, on my own. The cops say this is a property crime, they have homicides to work on, no real time for me. So I took it upon myself to track the thieves down. Been doing what some would call "underhanded things", but I have results. The main guy is in jail, he has admitted to the crime, he has given up the names of his cohorts. I can't give any details just yet, but I will when it all comes out. I know where my stuff went, but I have to be careful right now about getting into the place where it went. This investigating stuff can get REAL in a hurry, as I have learned the hard way.

[chevymaher]

Good deal. Man after my own heart. Be careful. Nuff said. Pullin for you.

[carpoor]

Thanks for the update Tony, keep up the good fight.

[FlintTony]

Thanks guys. This thing has consumed me since it happened. It was a big relief to know for sure who did it. I have a pretty big list of suspects that I have been watching and checking on regularly. Now that I know the 3 involved, I can concentrate on getting them all in jail and maybe some of my stuff back. And revenge, sweet revenge. I MUST have revenge. I slept a whole lot better last night.

[shadowgray396]

Glad you found the guys

[grandsport]

A local police officer who our family knew was killed by a drunk driver while on duty.Left behind a beautiful wife and 6 kids.

[grandsport]

You can't blame the thieves for stealing? You're well known for saying stupid shit and pissing people off. This one ranks as one of your better attempts, what an ass.

How did I miss this?lol.You are one miserable son of a bitch!

[Hank70SS]

Hope you get your stuff back Tony, just be careful. Hey, how's Kathy doing, good I hope?

[FlintTony]

Hank, Kathy is doing great. She vacuumed the house by herself today! Left handed of course, but she got it done. I put a spinner knob on the lawn tractor so she can mow the grass. Works pretty good.

[grandsport]

And you are still an ass -hole.

Lol and so are you

[shadowgray396]

Hank, Kathy is doing great. She vacuumed the house by herself today! Left handed of course, but she got it done. I put a spinner knob on the lawn tractor so she can mow the grass. Works pretty good.

Wow you have a wife that mows the lawn? I'm luckly if my wife knows what a lawn mower is. Lol

[FlintTony]

Wow you have a wife that mows the lawn? I'm luckly if my wife knows what a lawn mower is. Lol

Yep, she mows the lawn, trims the trees, trims the bushes, shovels snow, keeps the pond clean, and all kinds of help around the shop. I've mowed the lawn a couple of times, put the tractor in high gear, wide open, and give er hell. Make goofy circles, miss strips of grass, stay a few feet away from trees and such. She just shakes her head and says she will do the mowing.

[grandsport]

I do not like you. Keep your dumb-ass out of any thread that I have going.

Lol,make me

[grandsport]

You are a punk. A lying one at that. Go sell another rusted out, bondo filled, bullshit black Chevelle, then lie about it, then hide behind a lawyer. People like you make me sick. Bitch.

Waving...........

[Ms Grumpy]

I will be taking care of the inappropriate comments.

Sorry it has taken so long guys.

[Ms Grumpy]

This thread is about Tony and the problems that he has had with thieves. I am hoping to keep this open so that we can continue to support Tony in getting the thieves.

Besides, I want to know what kind of trouble Tony gets into catching them. lol

[RBeckman]

This thread is about Tony and the problems that he has had with thieves. I am hoping to keep this open so that we can continue to support Tony in getting the thieves.

Besides, I want to know what kind of trouble Tony gets into catching them. lol

I agree and with that I deleted my posts responding to the inappropriate comments.

I can't wait to meet up with Tony soon to hear the story first hand. Tony, when is the next cruise in Davidson?

[FlintTony]

The cops did a search warrant yesterday at one of the stash houses the criminals have. They didn't find any of my stuff, but did find some fire-arms and knives. They sent me some pictures of the knives to my flip phone. None were mine. These guys are in their early twenties and have had so many charges against them it is unreal that they are still on the streets. The main guy has had 6 different B&E, home invasion charges reduced to trespassing by the prosecutor. The raid saved me from having to go in alone, so that was a good thing. Will keep working on it.

I go to the heart doc and the knee doc today. Been having some heart trouble and the knee doc started the series of shots in the joint to see if he can get me some relief.

Ric, The first Davison cruise is on the 29th of this month. Hope to see you there.

[Hank70SS]

Wow, I missed a lot of drama the last couple of days. Half the replies in this post have been deleted. Hopefully everyone has calmed down some and we won't have anymore unwanted visitors.

Speaking of mowing the lawn, Lynda mows ours, as long as the weather is warm and sunny. Otherwise I get to do it.

[flash]

Hank ,you didnt miss anything good .Glad its behind us ,we dont need it here .

[shadowgray396]

Around here if you steal a car or break into someone's house as long as a gun was not used they give you a ticket and let you go and hope you show up in court.

[RBeckman]

All good news Tony, sounds like life is starting to catch up to these punks. Are you sure they were not your stuff, those pics on the Flip Phone are like polaroid's of the 70's.

[carpoor]

those pics on the Flip Phone are like polaroid's of the 70's.

I bet that clock in the Camaro looks like a sun dial on a flip phone!

[Ken Hayes]

Tony, the shots to the knee, are they "Supratz" ? If so, they're not too bad. I've had them in both knees (not at the same time) 1 shot a week for 6 weeks.

Really hope you get your stuff back.

[FlintTony]

Ken, that is what the shots are. This was the second one and I think it helped. I hope they work, as if they don't I have to have a knee replacement. I want to keep all my stock parts in me for as long as I can.

I sent the phone pictures to my computer so I could see them. Not my stuff. I talked to the Under-Sherriff yesterday. Because it's taken so long to identify the suspects, my stuff is most likely gone for good. I am going to the local PD this morning to see how much they will pursue the thieves now that they have been positively identified.

[Hank70SS]

Lynda had cortisone shots and some other shots for arthritis before her knee replacement. Didn't really help her, hope it works for you.

[Hank70SS]

Hank ,you didnt miss anything good .Glad its behind us ,we dont need it here .

I read it all, glad I missed it or I might have said something stupid. Glad it's over too.

[RBeckman]

I read it all, glad I missed it or I might have said something stupid. Glad it's over too.

No way, not the Hank I know.

[Hank70SS]

Actually you're probably right Ric. I don't let stupid shit get to me very often. It's not worth going through life pissed off all the time.

Although I did go ballistic a few weeks ago but I think it was warranted. I'll save that for another thread.

[FlintTony]

Cops caught two criminals in possession of one of my handguns last night. The trail that leads back to my shop is amazing. Stolen from me, traded to drug dealer, traded to another drug dealer, bought by two idiots from the third drug dealer. Will take a while to get back to me. They have to do ballistics testing on it, if it is clean I get it back relatively soon. If used in a crime, I have to wait until the trial is over. The cops have some good leads from these two guys.

[carpoor]

Small victory Tony, hoping they continue to track them down and and recover all of your property.

[RBeckman]

That is great news Tony...they will start singing to safe themselves.

[FlintTony]

Around here if you steal a car or break into someone's house as long as a gun was not used they give you a ticket and let you go and hope you show up in court.

Same thing around here. The ACLU has sued the County for "overcrowding" at the County Jail. If they exceed the prisoner count by TWO, they have to release 150 to get the count back down. The criminals can't be double-bunked anymore, as it is considered "cruel and unusual punishment". What a crock of shit that is. The criminals just laugh at the cops when they are told "we are going to issue you an appearance ticket".

This ordeal has sure taught me a lot about how our justice system has gone to hell. The guys that were caught with my gun told the cops where they got it from. The cops can't go arrest the seller without doing a full investigation. Can't bring the guy in for questioning without more evidence. Bullshit is what I say. Drag him in and lets get this thing over with.

[FlintTony]

That is great news Tony...they will start singing to safe themselves.

A pair if channel-locks on their nuts will get em singing pretty fast. Just happen to have a few pairs of channel=locks that I would like to see put to good use.

[Hank70SS]

Good news Tony, hopefully it leads to the rest of your stuff.

[FlintTony]

Picked up my S&W .357 from the cops today. The criminals did not treat it with respect. Once again, I HATE thieves.

[Hank70SS]

I hope they at least cleaned it after shooting it. J/K Any word on any of your other stuff that was stolen?

[RBeckman]

Picked up my S&W .357 from the cops today. The criminals did not treat it with respect. Once again, I HATE thieves.

Well they are scum of the earth and they don't care about your or anyone else's stuff and all you hope is that they become Bubba's girlfriend in Jail.

[FlintTony]

Hank, they didn't have the courtesy to clean it. In fact, it looks like is got very wet. Some small rust spots on the barrel and the thing is full of burned powder. I hope they didn't use it in any crimes. The cops don't send revolvers for ballistics testing anymore, only semi-autos. Brilliant thinking, huh? No word on anything else, except we know the stuff went to the dope dealers.

Ric, I can think of a few thing I would do to the criminals if I could. It wouldn't be pretty.

[FlintTony]

Oh yeah, we got our home-owners renewal policy lastMonday. Our rates went up 50%. That's right, 50 %. I am switching agents in July when it is due. I have some stories about my new agent. She took over for the guy we've had for decades, as he retired and moved to Florida.

I sent the check this morning to the claims adjuster for the pistol back. He says in doing this for over 20 years, no one has had the tenacity like I have for wanting my stuff back and to see the criminals in jail. He also said if it wasn't for my involvement. nothing would have ever been done on my case and the insurance company should be paying me for doing the cops work.Pitiful, just pitiful.

[Hank70SS]

Well they are scum of the earth and they don't care about your or anyone else's stuff and all you hope is that they become Bubba's girlfriend in Jail.

Well it wasn't his stuff anymore. It was theirs, they purchased it from the dope dealer.

No ballistics on revolvers, just semi-autos? That doesn't make any sense at all.

Who do have for homeowners insurance Tony? We have AAA for the cars, motorhomes and house. Not sure about homeowners insurance but AAA has good rates for cars. When companies advertise that you can save $XXX they never compare their rates to AAA. They compare to State Farm, Allstate, Progressive but never AAA.

[FlintTony]

Well shit Hank. I never looked at it that way. I suppose the right thing to do would be give the criminals back the dough they paid the dope dealers for the gun. Perhaps I could convince them to meet me in a nice secluded spot, ya know, so I can PAY them what they have coming.

We have Auto -Owners insurance on both houses here and a total of 8 vehicles. I have Hagerty on the 3 old cars. Andrea, my step-daughter, is now a licensed insurance agent for Auto-Owners. She got her Masters Degree in Public Health and decided to expand her specialties. She is in the financial dept at MEA. She looked over all of our stuff and has come up with some decent prices now. The agent that took over for the retired guy is the most incompetent insurance person that I have ever dealt with. I had an hour long conversation with her supervisor yesterday. He wants to keep us as clients, but too late for that.

[Hank70SS]

I don't know how much they paid the dope dealer for the gun but I wouldn't give them that much. They did abuse it so there has to be some amount of depreciation.

Good that Andrea found you a better deal. Some people stick with the same insurance their whole life. We've had AAA, State Farm, Allstate and now AAA again. If you want the best rates you have to change every so often.