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BillsCamino
11-13-2015, 12:28 PM
...look whats made it's way (legally) to GA.
Originally a Wayne Co PD sidearm that was purchased from an Arms Trade-In vendor. :cool:
Smith & Wesson Model 65-3

carpoor
11-13-2015, 02:30 PM
Very nice. I knew I liked you guys... Chevelles and firearms, two of my favorite things.

RBeckman
11-13-2015, 03:56 PM
Very Cool, Wayne County is the largest County in Michigan, it is also the County where Detroit is located. Actually I think Ken and the Grumpy's live in Wayne County am I correct guys?

Hank70SS
11-14-2015, 08:40 AM
Nice score Bill. I have a S&W model 67 no dash, .38 Special version of the same gun, both stainless S&W K frames. It's amazing to handle a gun like that then a modern semi-auto. No wonder a used model 67 costs more than a lot of new semi-auto's.

We went to the range a few months ago when our daughter Susan was in town. She shot the 9MM and 22 but liked the 38 best. She was also more accurate with it than the others and she's a whopping 4'11" and change.

This is Lynda shooting the 38.

http://chevelleforum.org/album.php?albumid=226&pictureid=4686
http://chevelleforum.org/album.php?albumid=226&pictureid=4686

BillsCamino
11-14-2015, 09:55 AM
Great pic Hank...looks like a nice outdoor range.

Yeah, I've got a couple large frame Smiths already...model 29-3 and a Model 66-5 both in 4" and one of my favorites...a J frame Model 638.
I'm old school I guess...always slightly favored a shorter barreled revolver.
And when this Trade-in became available at a price I couldn't pass on, I grabbed it. Got it home and researched the Wayne Co marking.
Then thought about y'all here.

Hank70SS
11-14-2015, 10:04 AM
Range is in a state rec are a few miles from our house. $10 and you can shoot all day. Ric and I went there one afternoon and we were the only ones on the range. Nice cause you change targets when you want instead of when they call it.

Sounds like a nice collection Bill. I like the 38, just wish ammo didn't cost twice as much as 9MM ammo.

I lived in Wayne county most of my life, until 14 yrs ago when we moved here. I think the Grumpy's live in Berkley, Oakland County, borders Wayne County.

How's that Taurus, what do you think? I was looking at the Ruger LC9S but have been busy with other stuff, haven't been to the range since Susan was here in August.

Ken Hayes
11-14-2015, 02:39 PM
Ric, you are correct on saying Wayne is the largest (in population) county in Michigan. I live in Wayne but Dave & Nancy live in Oakland county as they are north of 8 Mile Rd.

carpoor
11-14-2015, 02:56 PM
Hank, my folks both EDC Ruger LC9s. They like them for the minimum bulk. I am stuck on my G30 SF for my EDC.

Hank70SS
11-14-2015, 05:04 PM
Hank, my folks both EDC Ruger LC9s. They like them for the minimum bulk. I am stuck on my G30 SF for my EDC.

I'm not stuck on Rugers but the SR9C had the best feel in my hand of all the ones I looked at in that size. Same with LC9S, looked at all the guns they had at Gander Mountain and they have a lot. I though it would be a good carry gun.

BillsCamino
11-14-2015, 06:02 PM
Been shooting the hell out of that bargain Taurus PT111 G2 that I told you about...probably have run over 1K rounds thru it...ZERO issues!!
Like the relatively compact size and the 12 rd mag capacity.
I'd put it up against a Glock anyday.
Not bad for a $199 gun that also had a $50 rebate.:cool:

BillsCamino
11-14-2015, 07:46 PM
And we're leaving for Europe on Wednesday evening...wish I could pack it...

Hank70SS
11-15-2015, 08:10 AM
Keep your eyes open and stay safe Bill.

carpoor
11-15-2015, 08:49 PM
Agreed, stay vigilant and return home safe.

BillsCamino
11-15-2015, 09:44 PM
Thanks y'all.

flash
11-15-2015, 10:23 PM
Bill ,you and Anne have a safe trip and tell Liz and Liam hello from us .

BillsCamino
11-16-2015, 09:36 AM
Will do John.

Changed our plans...fly to Dublin tomorrow night (Tuesday)...hang out there for a couple days and then fly to Barcelona. Need to be boarding a cruise ship there by Sunday afternoon. Should be stopping in Florence/Pisa T-giving Day.
Back home in two weeks.

Hank70SS
11-16-2015, 04:42 PM
Sounds like a nice trip Bill, enjoy. Guess I didn't need to say that, I'm sure you will.

BillsCamino
11-16-2015, 04:46 PM
I am truly blessed and thankful for it!!
Both of us are retired, in reasonably good health, and living comfortably.

Hank70SS
05-31-2016, 07:54 PM
http://chevelleforum.org/picture.php?albumid=231&pictureid=4805

http://chevelleforum.org/picture.php?albumid=231&pictureid=4806

Spent the Memorial Day weekend up north and my son asked me to bring the 38, reminded me of this post. We shot a number of guns but everybody that shot the 38 said "Man I like that gun!" Guess I'll have to take more 38 ammo next time.

Had a great time. Ate a lot of good food, drank a lot of beer and used our Hillbilly chain saw, AKA guns, to bring down a 8" diameter tree.

Good stuff.

BillsCamino
05-31-2016, 08:21 PM
S&W revolvers are THE best!! And my favorites...
What model is that K frame...64??

Hank70SS
06-01-2016, 08:16 AM
It's a model 67 Bill. Those aren't the stock grips for that gun. I still have them and the box from back in the 70's when I bought it.

BillsCamino
06-01-2016, 08:39 AM
Nice!!!
Here's some help dating that Smith...

K Series K Frames (Adjustable Sight Models)

K101 – K614……………......1946
K615 – K18,731…………....1947
K18,732 – K73,121……..…1948
K73,122 – K84,149……..…1949
K84,150 – K104,047…...1950
K104,048 – K136,690...1951
K136,691 – K175,637...1952
K175,638 – K210,095...1953
K210,096 – K231,255...1954
K231,256 – K266,154...1955
K266,155 – K288,988...1956
K288,989 – K317,822...1957
K317,823 – K350,547...1958
K350,548 – K386,804...1959
K386,805 – K429,894...1960
K429,895 – K468,098...1961
K468,099 – K515,478...1962
K515,479 – K553,999....1963
K555,000 – K605.877....1964
K605,878 – K658.986....1965
K658,987 – K715,996....1966
K715,997 – K779.162....1967
K779,163 – K848,781....1968
K848,782 – K946,391....1969
K946,382 – K999,999....1970
1K1 – 1K39,500.........1970
2K1 – 2K22.037.........1970
1K39,501 – 1K999,999...1971
2K22,038 – 2K55,996....1971
3K1 – 3K73,962.........1971
2K55,997 – 2K99,999....1972
3K31,280 – 5K6,616.....1972
4K1 – 4K1,627..........1972
4K1,628 – 4K54,104.....1973
5K6,617 – 5K73,962.....1973
4K54,105 – 4K99,999....1974
5K73,963 – 6K58,917....1974
7K1 – 7K26,043.........1974
7K26,044 – 7K70,577....1975
6K98,918 – 8K20,763....1975
8K20,764 – 9K1.........1975
8K20,000 – 9K100,000...1975
9K1,001 – 9K99,999.....1976
10K001 – 24K9,999......1977
25K001 – 56K9,999......1978 – 79
57K001 – 91K6,800......1980
91K6,801 – 124K000.....1981
125K000 – 269K9,999....1982
270K000 – 311K273......1983

1980 Three-Letter Prefix Series Begins at AAA000

flash
06-01-2016, 08:57 PM
Bill ,once I get my carry permit I may need your help picking out a gun. Hope to do this soon.

mestorod70
06-01-2016, 09:13 PM
Bill ,once I get my carry permit I may need your help picking out a gun. Hope to do this soon.

Thats easy...if its open carry....imi desert eagle in 357 mag.
Opps had to do that...lol

BillsCamino
06-01-2016, 09:46 PM
Bill ,once I get my carry permit I may need your help picking out a gun. Hope to do this soon.

John,
In GA you don't need a CCW permit to purchase and keep a handgun at home or inside any of your vehicles.
A simple, free background check is all that's required if the purchase is made from a dealer.
Private sales between individuals don't require anything other than proof of residency and a verbal statement that the buyer is legal to own a firearm.
But, I'd be glad to help you when your ready to purchase. In fact, I've got a variety for you to "sample". ;)

flash
06-01-2016, 10:31 PM
Bill, Im going to get a conceiled carry permit ,then the gun. Im just waiting on the final Dr bills before I can spend the $$ .

Hank70SS
06-02-2016, 08:05 AM
3K60,470 That fits in the 1971 and 1972 range? I know it's the first model 67, no dash. Pinned, tapered barrel, stainless sites. There are also model 67-1 through I think 67-5. They changed the rear sites to blued. They added white inlay to the front sites. Straight barrel, blued hammer, etc.

BillsCamino
06-02-2016, 08:28 AM
Correct...67 no dash had stainless sites.
I'm a BIG S&W revolver fan...K & J frames mostly in stainless but some nickel.
Matter of fact, got the Jinks letter from Smith in yesterday's mail on my 1943 Victory...shipped from S&W factory in Jan 1943...delivered to the Oregon Ship Builders.
Was some shipyard guard's gun during WWII.

BillsCamino
06-02-2016, 09:29 AM
Bill, Im going to get a conceiled carry permit ,then the gun. Im just waiting on the final Dr bills before I can spend the $$ .

With VA Reciprocity Bill effective July 1st and the SC recip bill now on it's governor's desk, you'll be good to go to possess thoughout the South with a GA CCW.
Just stay out of IL, NY and most New England states....

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/w1111010011010111111001011100100011110100111110001 11.gif

flash
06-02-2016, 11:10 AM
Thanks for the map Bill ,that was going to be one of my questions about where I could legally carry .Can you carry at all in the red states ?

BillsCamino
06-02-2016, 11:21 AM
Red states are a No-no.
As mentioned, SC and VA will soon change to "blue" with recent legislation.

I also have a Utah non-res and a NY resident CCW permits which allows me to carry in a few more.

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/w1111010111010111111001011110100111110100111111101 11.gif

Hank70SS
06-02-2016, 07:30 PM
I'm in a blue state, one of the reasons I got a CPL (concealed pistol license) so I could carry while traveling. In Michigan it's called a CPL because it's for a pistol only, no tasers, sawed off shotguns, etc. I don't carry around here, don't feel a need to, but I don't want any hassles when traveling. Never know where you may be when you have a break down, better safe than sorry. I try to avoid red states or just pass through. It's legal to transport through any state, federal law, so long as you're legal in your starting and destination states. Just don't stop except for gas, rest area etc. NJ is one of the worst, I'll never travel through there. You also have to follow their laws, which usually means the gun can't be loaded or accessible.

Hank70SS
06-02-2016, 07:33 PM
Thats easy...if its open carry....imi desert eagle in 357 mag.
Opps had to do that...lol

Mi is an open carry state but some feel intimidated when they see a gun. They don't realize how many concealed weapons there are around but they worry about the ones they can see.

BillsCamino
06-03-2016, 03:33 PM
Just to update the SC CCW info...law signed by Haley this morning...very big deal here in neighboring GA.
http://www.georgiacarry.org/cms/2016/06/03/south-carolina-governor-haley-signs-ga-reciprocity-bill/

flash
06-03-2016, 03:59 PM
Good to know ,we go to North and South Carolina quite often.

Hank70SS
06-09-2016, 06:57 PM
So my son called today. Wanted to know what model my gun was. I had to explain that it's a model 67 which is a K frame and there are different model K frames. Then there are different frames which also have various models and different calipers. Anyway he thinks he needs a gun like mine because it was so nice to shoot. We've only shot 9mm together until Memorial day when he shot the 38.

BillsCamino
06-09-2016, 09:00 PM
Just to give him an idea...

This week I bought a S&W Model 64-3 4" barrel (.38) ...complete with original target "football" grips, box, & papers.
This Smith was made in 1981 and is in excellent mechanical & physical condition.
Paid $450 for it...
Even if he doesn't want stainless...the older Model 15 are excellent shooters and the 4" barrel versions are easy to find.

Hank70SS
06-10-2016, 07:58 AM
I did mention the blued version as an option as well as some of the other models. He'll just have to look around and see what he likes and what he can find.

Hank70SS
01-08-2018, 05:37 PM
Hey Bill, picked up a Remington RM380 couple weeks ago. $239 before a $100 rebate from Remington. Of course this week they dropped the price to $229 so my son bought one. Nice little 380 pocket gun. No polymer frame, all aircraft aluminum frame and 2 mags. No safety, DA only. Good reviews except for the long heavy trigger pull but Galloway makes a spring kit for it. Also picked up a Ruger SR22 from a friend of my son. He bought it for his wife, she never fired it and they got divorced. He just wanted it gone so I got that for $175 with 2 mags. Since I bought the 22 for Lynda I guess I can still look around for another gun for me.

carpoor
01-08-2018, 10:38 PM
Wish the 50 state reciprocity bill had passed. I have put off doing some traveling because of the current laws. Still carrying my Gen 3 G30 SF, almost 6 years now. Very comfortable and familiar with it. I have pistol carbine the same caliber, that shares mags, as my truck gun.

Hank70SS
01-09-2018, 08:12 AM
FL has reciprocity with quite a few states, over 30 I think. MI has reciprocity with 39 states. Northeast, west coast and Illinois in middle. When we went out to Mt Rushmore and Yellowstone in 2015 I drove through Illinois without stopping. After that, all good.

BillsCamino
01-09-2018, 10:41 AM
Pretty good deal on that RM380 Hank...LGS here was selling them for $189 +tax before the rebate. Sold out quick...
I've got a GA CCW permit along with a UT non-res and a res NY...I'm good in about 43 States.

carpoor
01-09-2018, 02:58 PM
FL has reciprocity with quite a few states, over 30 I think. MI has reciprocity with 39 states. Northeast, west coast and Illinois in middle. When we went out to Mt Rushmore and Yellowstone in 2015 I drove through Illinois without stopping. After that, all good.

Illinois is one I would have to travel through to go a few places. And not sure if my FL CWL is good in Michigan or Ohio. (Pure Stock/F.A.S.T. races) It's definitely a no go in NY & NJ.

BillsCamino
01-09-2018, 03:06 PM
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/travel/

Hank70SS
01-09-2018, 06:12 PM
carpoor, you're good in MI and Ohio. Illinois, NY and New Jersey are pretty much no carry even for residents. MI changed from CCW to CPL (Concealed Pistol License), the license does not allow concealed carry of other weapons like tasers. Many other states are the same, only pistol is allowed. Here's a list of where you're good.

www.freshfromflorida.com/Divisions-Offices/Licensing/Concealed-Weapon-License/Concealed-Weapon-License-Reciprocity

Federal law allows you to transport your gun "through" any state so long as it's legal for you to have the gun in the state you start from and the state you end up in. Stopping overnight, not having it unloaded and not accessible can get you in trouble in some states that don't recognize your FL license. That's why if I have to go through IL I won't even stop for gas. Just get through that stupid state as fast as I can. Oh, and they have more gun homicides in Chicago than in anyother major city. So much for their crazy laws.

Hank70SS
01-09-2018, 06:32 PM
Pretty good deal on that RM380 Hank...LGS here was selling them for $189 +tax before the rebate. Sold out quick...

I've been meaning to check out a LCP and Body Guard then I saw the RM 380 for $139 after rebate. Figured can't really go wrong at that price. Reviews say it handles well for such a small gun, I'll see when we get to FL and I can get to the range. Hey, what's LGS? Rural King opened a store here, they also have RK Guns which is online but some of the sales are both online and in stores. Sign up and you'll get a couple emails a week on guns, ammo and gear on sale. Pretty decent prices. That's where I got the RM380.

BillsCamino
01-10-2018, 09:02 AM
LGS = local gun store ;)

carpoor
01-10-2018, 05:11 PM
Thank you for the links gentlemen. I know Chicago as the world's largest outdoor shooting range!

I see what you mean about CWL vs. CWP. Guess I had better leave my pocket knife at home. It's spring assisted, but under 3" in blade length. So not "technically" a concealed weapon as defined by Florida law.

Hank70SS
01-11-2018, 07:15 AM
LGS = local gun store ;)

Dah! Yea, gun forum speak. Shouldn't have caught that but I don't frequent them very often.

Thank you for the links gentlemen. I know Chicago as the world's largest outdoor shooting range!

I see what you mean about CWL vs. CWP. Guess I had better leave my pocket knife at home. It's spring assisted, but under 3" in blade length. So not "technically" a concealed weapon as defined by Florida law.

Well I'm glad I'm 50+ miles from Detroit. Every morning I see the news and just have to shake my head. You'd think some of these large cities are in the middle east. I want your car, I cap you. You made me mad, I cap you. I don't like the way you look, I cap you.

Have to be careful, every state has their own laws. If you have a FL CWP other states may recognize it but there laws regarding it are probably different.

BillsCamino
01-12-2018, 02:58 PM
Hank....
https://shop.whittakerguns.com/product/ss-1712201020110

Hank70SS
02-01-2018, 08:17 AM
Well finally got to the range with that RM380. Did okay but it has to be the worst trigger in the world. A 50lb pull for a mile and half. Seriously, it is bad. Very long pull and has to be +8lbs. Guess I'll be ordering the Galloway spring kit, supposed to bring it down to the 6lb range.