Yes,another rant from Grandsport!
 

Today was just one of those days when everything and every body irritated me. Went on a pretty good rant at the dealership,including telling the owner(i'm really his boss;)) that he better shape up or I done here.I left at 1pm ,he called me at 5pm:) Spent the greater part of the day with my dog,Malibu. For you people that don't have a dog,there is nothing greater when they look up at you and just stay by your side,took her for a little cruise and now she is asleep here on the front porch with me.Yes,sometimes dogs are mans best friend and cheap thearpy.

Details about my daughter tomorrow.

Sorry to hear about your day Gary. I am glad that Malibu was there for you. Hope tomorrow is better. What's up with your daughter?

Money problems,that I didn't know about.:mad:

Don't stress over it till you talk to her. Sometimes it is just advice she is looking for. If it is money that she needs. You are her dad, and you will figure out a way to make it happen. It will be OK.

Her fiancee makes 6 figures a year and they are broke. I can't believe Mike let this happen. The problem is he kept spoiling Lindsay,like I did and that's not right for a young couple starting out.They live in a high price apartment,like 2500 a month in the city,she wanted a BMW and he got her one and on and on....And she is going to grad school!

Just found out tonight,Maureen gave them$3k.:mad:

I think that maybe a little "tough love" may need to be prescribed.

That's where I fail.

You havent failed and there is still time for them to learn from this.

Tough love worked for me. Momma knocked me off the nipple early enough for me to make the simple mistakes. I quickly learned you have to WORK for what I want. Good luck and enjoy the Malibu

Tough love doesn't mean anything other than, you need to take responsibility for your actions.

If you always bail them out (speaking from my own experience), they will never learn how to say NO. We, as parents need to teach them that, and to let them suffer, at least a little, and to let them figure out how to solve THEIR PROBLEMS.

I always tried to keep the communication open, and I never let them suffer too much, but I did let them know that I wasn't the bank and that they needed to give up something before I helped.

I think you better start selling a lot more Pacifica's :) Good luck Luck Gary.

Gary, I wish you a lot of luck too.

Obama, is that you? :D

I don't if I should laugh or cry over this one.Lindsay called us from her skybox last evening right next to the stage at the Paul McCartney concert.:eek:

I'd say she doesn't want or need financial help from you if she's still spending money foolishly. :o

I'd be willing to help someone out of a financial jam if the money will be spent wisely and they demonstrate a lesson has been learned, but if they want the "help" so that they can continue to spend money like fools, and that they'll be no better off when that money's gone, there's no way I'd give them anything other than advice.

I have some in-laws that constantly hit up my wife for money, and we had to draw the line...

Maybe if she wasn't so damn cute......

do you know what that cost$ ????

thousands and thousands are my guess.

I have two beautiful daughters who are on their own, but......the concert would have ticked me off.

I would do anything for my kids but careless spending is not supported in anyway shape or form.

I'll let the wife and her work that out.I think she was more upset at the fact that she wasn't invited.:p

Sounds like both of you may have been a little jealous that you weren't invited.

Dam straight,there was unlimited beer in that box.:p

Tough Love
 

We taught our 3 kids responsibility at an early age. When they were old enough, they got jobs so that they didn't have to be coming to Mom and Dad for spending money. They knew it wasn't going to be there. They learned pretty quickly how fast a week's pay can disappear. Better to learn it at 14 as 35. Making life easy and bailing kids out backfires just about every time. I've seen it far to often. That's not to say that we never help our kids. We help when we feel it is appropriate and it has worked well for us.

Gary, some of this is chalked up to society. It seems like people today have no sense of what things are really worth, and that the things some people have were EARNED over years and years of hard work and sacrifice. This has to be also partly due to a stronger desire and popularity of instant gratification. It doesn't feel good to pay off your credit card, you don't get anything tangible from it...it feels good to blow $2500 on a McCartney concert.

Is she mature enough to have a real conversation about this? What about the both of them...maybe together they'd be more receptive. Remind them that donating $ as their parents AT LEAST halfway entitles you and Maureen to some sort of say so in their spending habits. You have to tell them that you don't agree with some of their choices...because they aren't wise choices. Tell them you can't help anymore unless they smarten up a little. It has to be done or it will perpetuate.