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Ms Grumpy 02-10-2012 12:27 PM

Mad dad on facebook.
 
This video is one ticked off dad. There is some strong language in the video, but this is what every parent needs to see. And this is why my kids at home do not have a facebook page.

http://www.litefm.com/cc-common/main...rticle=9738000

flash 02-10-2012 01:35 PM

I saw that video elsewhere but it was great ,we dont do Facebook.

Rank 02-10-2012 01:37 PM

Damn cigarette smokers .... what the hell is wrong with them!... Dad is an asshole and shouldnt be invading his child's privacy, kids are allowed to vent!

Ms Grumpy 02-10-2012 04:18 PM

I don't think it was invading her privacy. I think he was being a parent and monitoring what she was doing. If my mom had found a letter (no internet so it would have had to actually be written) like that when I was younger, she would have beat my behind. Would your view have been different if he had a beer or a glass of wine in his hand?

Nowadays too many kids have freedom to go anywhere and do anything, especially on the web.

Rank 02-10-2012 04:40 PM

I would hope you wouldnt "beat your child's behind" for simply expressing themselves .. not only is that against the law but it is idiotic and damaging (sorta like cigarette smoking!).... I would hope you broke the circle of abuse.

If this girl had a diary and wrote such gibberish in her diary and her dad "found" it in her diary whilst he was changing the light bulb in here room ... then that would be no different then the justification he gives for finding it now .... he was a snoop and to add to it he is an ass for degrading his own child with this public (viral) tirade...... very inmature and idiotic conduct on his part and if this is the example he sets for life-skills his daughters "letter" is understandable.. how could anyone, let alone his own child, have any glimmer of respect for this yo-yo?

Ms Grumpy 02-10-2012 05:06 PM

I don't condone what he did, posting the video cause I think that is questionable. What I am saying is that how kids behave now is with no respect for the parent at all. I have seen kids say these things to their parents in public settings. And the parents have no recourse because society had deemed what they can and can't do when disciplining their children. I feel bad for some of the parents whose kids act like that.

It was a different time growing up in the late 60's, early 70's. Spanking your kids was accepted, do I hate my mom for this no. Do I respect my mom, oh hell yes. She is a strong woman who I would have never said any of those things to.

We have taught all 6 of our kids to be individuals, to express themselves and to respect people.

I didn't post this to make anyone mad. I posted this because, whether people admit it or not. Sometimes we all get frustrated with our kids and want to do something about it. He just happened to post it in public for the world to see.

Derek69SS 02-10-2012 06:12 PM

Poor gun safety... residential neighborhood, and doesn't keep it pointed in a "safe" direction.

grandsport 02-10-2012 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rank (Post 32032)
Damn cigarette smokers .... what the hell is wrong with them!... Dad is an asshole and shouldnt be invading his child's privacy, kids are allowed to vent!

Last time I checked,until your kid moves out on his own it's fair came to investigate any sketchy behavior. Maybe the smoke has clouded my judgement,I shall re-think my position on this while having a smoke.:p

Rank 02-10-2012 06:46 PM

Share that smoke with Lindsay... and get her opine...You could be surprise about public humiliation and privacy issues!
The smoking issue is simple.... but we are all not smart, are we?

Rank 02-10-2012 06:49 PM

Ms I would find your kids comments on this video interesting.

grandsport 02-10-2012 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rank (Post 32045)
Share that smoke with Lindsay... and get her opine...You could be surprise about public humiliation and privacy issues!
The smoking issue is simple.... but we are all not smart, are we?

Never smoked around her.The wife has been off them for about a month,and I'm down to half a pack a day.It is really getting to be more trouble than it's worth.;)

earthquake68 02-10-2012 07:32 PM

Rank, I'm assuming you are a child yourself. There's NO WAY a parent would put up with this much disrespect. You mention the child's humiliation. What about the parents?! Now-a-days, the child thinks they can disrespect the parent with no consequences because of child protection laws. Yes, there are abusers out there. This father tried the grounding thing and it didn't work. You talk about LIFE SKILLS??!! What life skills does she get if allowed to "vent" like this. Do you honestly believe she'll get away with that at a job somewhere? YOU and people like YOU are the problem with this country.

Stay tuned for my video when I do the exact same thing with my daughter's computer with my AK47! (at the gun range of course)

Ms Grumpy 02-10-2012 08:19 PM

I didn't want to cause such a fuss with posting this video. I was just amazed that someone actually "posted" what they did.

I did show this to my kids, 14, 13 and 11. When it was done, they just sat there looking at the computer. I asked what they thought. My 11 year old told me "Mommy I would never do anything like that", my 14 year old daughter told me "that girls uses a lot of bad language and doesn't love her dad", my 13 year old son said "she has a lot of stuff, she has it all", stuff meaning electronic stuff.

We sat and talked about the video for about 10 minutes. I was really surprised how much they were on the side of the dad, other than they were shocked that he actually shot the computer. They were glad he wasn't there dad.

flash 02-10-2012 08:58 PM

Im not a parent so I dont know what I would have done and dont agree with the area where he fired the gun as it should have been out away from from everything but otherwise I agree with what he did. I also believe it was his right to see what she had posted on Facebook .I see far too many kids that dont respect their family or anyone else and think they are entitled to every new gadget or gismo out there and are NOT willing to work for anything.

Rank 02-11-2012 12:26 PM

"I didn't want to cause such a fuss with posting this video. I was just amazed that someone actually "posted" what they did. "

You were probably "amazed" because it is usually not the norm for people to hang their framily laundry out for public viewing. Good to hear the kids point of view.

Rank 02-11-2012 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by earthquake68 (Post 32048)
Rank, I'm assuming you are a child yourself. There's NO WAY a parent would put up with this much disrespect. You mention the child's humiliation. What about the parents?! Now-a-days, the child thinks they can disrespect the parent with no consequences because of child protection laws. Yes, there are abusers out there. This father tried the grounding thing and it didn't work. You talk about LIFE SKILLS??!! What life skills does she get if allowed to "vent" like this. Do you honestly believe she'll get away with that at a job somewhere? YOU and people like YOU are the problem with this country.

Stay tuned for my video when I do the exact same thing with my daughter's computer with my AK47! (at the gun range of course)

.... I hear banjos!

Rank 02-11-2012 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flash (Post 32052)
Im not a parent so I dont know what I would have done and dont agree with the area where he fired the gun as it should have been out away from from everything but otherwise I agree with what he did. I also believe it was his right to see what she had posted on Facebook .I see far too many kids that dont respect their family or anyone else and think they are entitled to every new gadget or gismo out there and are NOT willing to work for anything.

Interesting points and yes he does have the right to view what she puts out in public on face book ... key words "puts out in public" ... the private stuff he shoulda, coulda, and probably woulda used better judgement if he was a better parent. Maybe having a non-confrontalional conversation with the kid would have worked. He also has right to say "No" if his daughter wants new gizmos, etc as he has the right to restrict her time on the computer. Kids dont come with an intruction book but paren ts have the responsibility to raise them the best they can and this guy shows poor class.

Kids , and this is just a kid, can be developed into fine adults with the help of parents that, although they grit there teeth alot, can work with the childs problems without lowering themselves to the childish and/or hurtful displays of the child they are attempting to mentor. Some kids are strong enough to NOT be the parent that their parents were ... which is were the term "break the circle" comes in.

So what does the daughter do now "to get even"? ... after all getting even seems to be the dad's approach .... video of pop's falling over drunk would surely bring a few hits on youtube! lol

.... or there is always family counseling.

SS Shaun 02-11-2012 03:50 PM

i just showed my wife this video and we both agree with the dad in what he said. do we agree with his actions on shooting the laptop, no only because he could of taken the hard drive out and destroyed it put a new hard drive in it and sell it. We both agree that its time for these kids today to get beatings to get punished! I grew up in a house hold if you did something so wrong that a punishment was to little then yes a beating was in order. we are not talking about abusing our kids but letting them know there is a wrong and a right and if you do wrong there is more then punishment to come. My daughter is 2 and half years old right now and starting to see wrong and right and the other day i was sitting with her and she got upset and she slapped me in the face! i grabbed her hand and slapped it and told her what she did was extremely wrong not only did she get punished for the night before she went to sleep she came to me and said i am sorry daddy! will so do it again? i highly doubt it! that is what i mean by a beating! i am not talking about whips and chains black and blues broken teeth and have to be in a hospital. My wife is a teacher and she teaches 5 year olds and the amount of disrespect she gets and the stories she tells me about 5 year old kids saying f this f that and how they are level 60 in call of duty! where are the parents? who is letting these kids act like that? and why? i know in my house my kids will NEVER act that way and if they do it behind my back they will pay for it! i dont think i would react the same way as this father but i can tell you my parents did it with me! i learned my lessons in life and i am a better man today! my wife grew up the same way and from what her parent told me it only took her one beating and she never wanted that to happen again, she followed all the rules laid before her and her siblings and look how she has turned out! I work in a high school and the kids here are totally off the chain. 95% of them need to be treated the same way this dad is treating or about to treat his child. I say good for him! and i hope more parents stand up and take charge of what kids are doing. maybe the world would be a better place. And Mrs Grumpy i totally agree with you 70s and 80s kids something happened to them. They got soft they didnt realize that a beating and a punishment like that did for them and they went soft on there kids. Now the world has no discipline and they think that they have it hard! I can go on because i have a lot to say about this topic. i am not looking to fight with anyone on here but in the best words ever said
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD6oijh-6DI&feature=fvst
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BBChevelle 02-11-2012 08:04 PM

Rank, with all due respect I do believe you should of been swallowed rather than conceived.

Fat fingered from the phone-Corey

Rank 02-11-2012 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBChevelle (Post 32083)
Rank, with all due respect I do believe you should of been swallowed rather than conceived.

Fat fingered from the phone-Corey

Wow! It appears you have given this topic alot of thought.

Rank 02-11-2012 11:53 PM

Shaun, there is alot of truth in your observation but also alot of conflicting statements.
Like yours, my wife is in the education field. In her case, 35 years in Special Education. Allot of those years in locked facilities such as Juvenile Hall, and as you ask "Where are the parents?" when a 5 year old misbehaves, the professionals ask the very same thing even as kids are incarcerated ... where are the parents?

Do you suppose the good parents are on youtube shooting up computers and pontificating about what the are doing to "get even " with their misbehaving kid? ... I dont think so ... and they certainly arent behind doors "beating the shit" out of their kids.

There is nothing wrong with saying "NO!" to a kid and I agree with so many others speaking on this subject, in that kids are spoiled as a general rule .... so whose fault is that ? Where are the parents? .... and what the heck happened to the declaration of "NO"??

I feel for your wife, I know what she is going through. A person has to have a license to own a dog and drive a car but any idiot can have kids and I would venture to bet most kids show to your wifes class without breakfast in their stomach because lazy mom and dad (if there is a dad) are still in bed when the kids leave for school ... I am surprized some kids even make it to school.

Shaun I think I know you well enough from some of the stuff you have posted here , for example worrying if you did the right thing in a financial transaction , indicates to me that no matter how many kids you have only one has to worry about being beat by you in that I would bet you wouldnt do that a second time ..... you would feel too bad, you would find that beating your kid hurts you more than the kid.

I dont think you are gonna have "problem children", you have displayed a pretty good set of values here and your children will learn from your lead.

As far as you not wanting to get in a pissing match with anyone over this subject, I would think any mature adult should be able express themselves in a rational matter without ridicules or hatred .... and those that do ridicule and take on a bullying name-calling stanch are simply showing a lack of intelligence and maturiity ..... sorta like this yo-yo did in the video LOL.

SS Shaun 02-12-2012 01:07 AM

well thank you Rank. i hope!..lol
my wife and i had a whole 2 hour discussion about our daughter today in our drive to do our valentines day thing and the only fear i have for my kids will be that they do the right things and learn from the wrong. and the fear is to appreciate everything that is handed to them.
My wife brought up a good point. at the age of 2 my daughter has done more at her age now then we did before we even turned 10. will she remember most of it nope but she did it and we have pictures to prove it..lol

What my wife and i talked about is when our parents had us at the age of 2 what did we have? not much so we understood the things we went through and what we had. My daughter and my unborn child is setup much better then we had it.
My daughter has her own room! her own toys her own TV (kind of its in my office and she uses it to watch her movies its not in her room and she will not get a tv in her room for a long time) and when we have our next child that child will have the same setup its own room and so on.

we just want to make sure that they understand these things we worked hard for and for them to have and enjoy but not to take advantage of! thats my biggest fear :)

Ms Grumpy 02-12-2012 08:08 AM

When I put up this link I never expected such passionate responses. I should not be surprised though. We all are passionate about many things, our families, our pets, our cars and so much more.

We all know that everyone has an opinion, and as adults we have grown to understand that we need to respect other peoples opinions.

Have I always made the right decisions when it came to my kids, I hope so. Did I try to do the best that I could, I did. Were my kids ever really mad at me, oh heck yeah. Am I a good parent ? How do we determine a good parent ? Is it someone who loves their children, who puts their safety first, who listens to them, who rewards them for accomplishments, who takes them to school everyday, who allows them to express themselves ? Is a good parent someone who has rules, chores for them to do everyday, monitors their computer, checks who their friends are, follows up with teachers, disciplines them when they break the rules, grounds them, takes away things ? Who makes the decision on who is a good parent ? All I know is that I did the best I could and I would give my life for anyone of my children.

grandsport 02-18-2012 07:10 PM

Lindsay does not like it when I am on Facebook.

Rank 02-18-2012 07:33 PM

" Dad you owe me four rounds at $1.00 each .... four dollars please"


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