Good bye,America.It was nice knowing you.
 

I have to get up at 4am,but I don't think sleep will come easy.I just can't believe what happened tonight,I am saddened and angry at the same time,but the American people have spoken and I think you will get more than you bargained for in the long run.Maybe you'll get what you deserve,but America does not deserve what is in store for her.My wife told me tonight one man cannot change things,but things sure changed these last 4 years.Maybe one man can't change things,but the people who control this man sure as hell can and will.Hang on my friends as the train we are a riding on is about to crash.I wont go into the things that are about to happen,you know what is coming,and the first thing to go will be low gas prices.Can our beloved muscle cars be far behind?Yes sir,I am going to change a few things myself.First thing is to get myself a gun,I think a revolution is on the horizon.Hey,this is just one mans humble opinion and I think the phrase "God bless America" now has more meaning than ever.Will the last one to leave turn out the lights?

That was a good one Gary, but I completly agree and this really sucks. I was never a fan of him 4 years ago and still not now, I can't believe people actually voted for him though. You would think that with common sense would vote for Romney the guy who wants to creat jobs for small buissnesses but no. I mean seriously what has he done for our country besides make me lay off 7 employees, make my house loose about $100,000 of its value, and add thousands of families on enemployment and food stamps. Believe me Gary I am hurting just as much as you are.

I too also agree with Gary and Jay. I am scared to think of what is to come. I know that maybe I shouldn't voice my opinion, as grumpy would tell me it might make some people mad. But you know what, for now, this is America and I will take advantage of my freedom of speech. I just hope that my freedoms will remain. That freedom, of which many men and woman have fought and lost their lives for, is something I feel may be slipping away. Just my opinion.

It's ok, Ms. Grumpy. You're in good company here.

I'm dumbfounded the American people have been snowed like they have. I will continue to build up my stock of ammunition while I can. I've already heard stories from reliable sources that veterans are are being targeted (for the last several years) for "Making terroristic threats against the president." So I'M not even allowed to say what I think of him for fear of being hauled off. THIS, ....THIS is what the American people want?! A truly sad day indeed.

I realize that neither candidate was worth a darn, but in that event always, ...ALWAYS vote for the new guy. He doesn't have any traction yet and it'll take the better part of four years to get things rolling. Then you can vote him out if you want. Now this *ahem* person has momentum built up and can do a lot more than he already has.

I agree 1000%
I was so upset last night I couldn't sleep either. :mad:
This country is screwed. I can't believe how stupid some people are to re-elect that ass clown.

I retire at the end of next month. I've been online this morning searching for property in Costa Rica...seriously. Waving

Just about any decent Republican could have beat Obama, but the Republican Party nominated a guy who banned guns and socialized healthcare in his state as Governor, who then picked a running-mate that voted for TARP, the auto bailouts, extending unemployment, expanding medicare, both stimulus packages, and the bank bailouts...

Then they wondered why they couldn't get enough support to win an election? :confused:

Voter turnout was way down in most states.

Voter turn out in the mid west was through the roof. Notice they went for the new guy.

Is it too early to start drinking? Really,I can't believe this.

With over 117 Million votes cast?? I don't think so...

131 Million voted 4 years ago.

It was way up here because of a Marriage Amendment on the ballot... A lot of people who would not have otherwise voted, showed up and voted Democrat because of that.

Conservatives took an ass-kicking here. :(

"The earth shall be inherited by the meek..." :(

I can't believe he got voted in again. I have to admit I voted for him the first but not this time. Just hope nothing happens to him because then we'll really be screwed if the other knuckle head takes over.

Those may have been factors but I don't think that's what cost him the election. He didn't get the Latino/Hispanic vote which is primarily a conservative group. It's tough and going to get tougher to win the presidency without their support. He also lost Ohio and maybe Michigan because of his stance on the auto bailout. He could have played that issue a lot better, he said let them go bankrupt. What he didn't say in his defense was they did go through bankruptcy. An unusual, government led bankruptcy but still bankruptcy.

Our society is changing, I don't like it but it's happening. Bigger gov, more entitlement programs that's where our society is headed. I don't think the average citizen sees the danger in this. They want someone to take care of them. That's a lot easier than taking care of yourself. Let the rich people pay for it, 39.6% tax rate on income over $200,000, $250,000 for couples. Let's tax them some more, they should pay their fair share. Where's the incentive to work hard and succeed?

When it all collapses due to national dept they'll see the problem. Look at Europe, they're already there, won't be long before we're there too.

So right Hank. One of my major concerns in the coming years will be the Obama-care programs. I know a lot of people who cannot afford insurance thru their work place and from what I understand there will be a large fine for those people that are not insured. And this is to start in the next 2 yrs.

That's terrible for people making over $200k to be taxed 39%. I think that it should be people making over 400k that should be taxed that much. I am already taxed 29% and I don't need to be losing any more money because that is just making unemployment rates get bigger since buisness owners are taxed to much. I also talked to a bank owner today who said that if this is the fact he's going to let someone go. And by looking at the stocks tonight it looks as if they were at there worst in a long time. Thankfully I won't be letting anyone go soon because I'm actually short handed and buissness has been very well lately.

I still can't believe who would vote for Obama, is there anyone here that did and can explain their reasoning? The only person I know who voted for obama is one of my buissness partners which I have no idea why because his company has not been doing so good lately until just last week. I'm glad he's not my main buissness and partner.

Hkalin let's hope that doesn't happen or then we are screwed!

Why's everyone so upset?
The world is suppose to end next month so there will be no inauguration in January.

At least that's what I'm praying for. ;)

I'm ready.I changed the oil and filters in all the toys last weekend.But seriously ,the end is here one way or another.Gas prices here in Texas rose 20 cents over night.Hmmmmm

Obama-care is just a portion of where I see us headed. I could debate both sides of Obama-care. People without insurance raise the rates for the rest of us, hospitals are obligated to treat people, insurance or not. Somebody is going to pay for it. Some people can't afford insurance, no fault of their own. This should be handled at a state level, we already have Medicaid. My biggest concern is the growth of the federal government. It keeps getting bigger and bigger. Agencies that have served their purpose and are no longer required don't go away. They're self sustaining, whether they're needed or not.

We have the FBI, CIA, ATF, TSA, US Marshalls along with the army, navy, air force, marines and coast guard and more. How much duplication (triplication, quadruplication, etc) of effort do we need. There is always a reason to create a new agency, just never seems to be a good reason to eliminate one. The federal government is like a living organism, it wants to preserve itself and grow. it keeps feeding, on us, and keeps growing. Eventually it will consume all of it's food source, us and collapse.

I cant believe how STUPID Americans were to re elect this same idiot .

I happen to agree with everyone here.

The younger generation that always got a trophy for participating in sports, that keeps getting chances in school until the school gives up and passes them, (whether they're ready or not) that have a minimum wage of over $8/hour. .....they have absolutely NO incentive to be great. "Everyone is equal". Well, there's no motivation to be great. No matter how much you shine, you get the same recognition as the dirt bag barely scrapping along.

NOW, ...Obama wants to penalize you for doing well. Tax the rich. ....fantastic plan. How many poor people do you know of that hire employees? That would be, ....ummm, ..NONE! If he raises taxes for the rich, we're going to see a huge spike in unemployment.

This fool is bent on destroying the country. There's no other explanation for it. Stock up on guns and ammunition. All this fool will have to say is "No more privately owned guns", and we're in a revolution.

that says it all right there! not going to get into it to much but its the ones they pick that causes them to loose but to make this thread a little more fun here is something i found

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTCRwi71_ns


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Your middle paragraph is exactly my point. We are on the same page but what goes on in other peoples minds are just tax them because they have more money. Well it just doesn't work like that, we work our buts off to get that far in life and at the same time I employ over 30 people. Romney was completly my man for making unemployment go down and finally get this country back on track. To bad more than half of the country didn't see it and now they might pay for it in the long run.

I don't care who you are, that's some funny stuff right there! :D

Lol yes it is!....lol

This is just great http://american3rdposition.com/?p=8416#idc-cover

And Shaun somehow I get the feeling you voted Obama, maybe not.

to be honest with you i didn't i personally am a dem but i didn't like either one of them i don't like obama and dont even get me started on big joe! i think that is why obama picked him because if someone was to pick him off then he knows the country would be doomed! but i really didn't like mitt and ryan. i just like to have fun with everyone int he political war

Just some observations under this president, vp, and administration...

the word "racist" has lost all meaning to me. Now, it is merely something someone screams at another person when they are not getting their way or hearing what they want to hear. (Generally FACTS)

It is now OK to openly tell someone that you voted for him because "he is black." (Which is funny to me - because he is of caucasian, african, and arab descent.) I now see more clearly who the real bigots around me are.

Free crap & false security has become more valuable to most instead of liberty and freedom.

Just a few off the top of my head - let's hear what everyone else has to say.

I am not political, never even voted before. So for me looking from outside the box with no bias either way i believe the problem is us the people that is. I think the population of the world itself is just too much. You can only have so many jobs so that leaves the rest of the people to unemployment. What also comes from more population is more (policing) hence why the law enforcement, govt, and military is so hugely populated. You can only support so many people before you have to let some go unhelped it is just comon sense. The biggest problem with people is overspending and debt which increases with the more population increases. People are just too greedy these days and it will get worse unless we put ourselves in check. I remember a few years ago when there was a new video console coming out i dont remember the name it was along the lines of the xbox or playstation but people would take off work, spend days in a line and buy it. All just to say hey look at me i am one of the first to have this. I also remember it was near christmas time and people would stand in those lines for days to get one then list it on ebay for at least a 600% markup and some Dumba** would buy it just to give it to their kid for christmas. If he or she would have waited till after the first of the year they could get it all day long for the same price the people who stood in line for days got it for. I think we do need more govt control of certian things like medical and things we NEED to survive oil, gas food and so on. My wife had to have some steriod injections (shots) in her back (3). Of course her medical insurrance covered everything but her deductable but when she got a breakdown from her insurrance on the claim the cost of the shot was over $30k each. She called the insurrance company to let them know something is wrong all she had was a shot in her back and there is no way it should have cost that much. Again she only has to pay her part but she knew something had to be wrong. The insurrance got back with her a couple of days later after doing a investigation and they were told by the doctors office that the liquid in the injection itself was special and cost $30,000. Really, there aint no way in hell. I had a chiroporactor bill me for things they said the ins would not cover and i found out later he also billed the ins for the same thing, needless to say he is no longer in business. We as people need to be told what we can and cant afford, what we need or dont need (to a point). And until that happens we are just going to keep living outside of our means (which alot of people say is the american way) Well that needs to change along with we need to take care of each other and quit worrying about what we have and want. I make over 200k a year and live comfortable and have a few employees as well and i will give up something for myself before letting one of them go as they are the reason i have what i have. My house is just above the median price of homes here, the newest vehicle i own is a 97 ford ranger with no a/c or power steering but it gets me where i need to go and at 26mpg. Unlike most of my friends i dont need a 40k dollar truck or a new car every 2 years or the latest and greatest gadget. It is their money and they can do what they want with it by all means but i get sick and tired of hearing them bitch about rising taxes which makes them increase their prices and do cutbacks so they can still live outside their means. Just my little rant. Thanks
Greg

Greg, great rant. I would have copied it, but it made me dizzy reading everything in one paragraph. lol :)

I especially agree that we need to take care of each other. I will just add that we need to stop trying to "Keep up with the Jones's". I saved for many years to be able to purchase a new car, I didn't want a huge car payment. For many years I went thru having the worst credit because of a divorce, and I learned to live by paying cash for almost everything. When the economy crashed I was still living that way so I wasn't hurt as much as my friends who lived on credit.

I don't know what the next 4 years are going to hold, but I am going to hold onto my cash...just in case.

I must be living in a bubble here in SW Pa. I've been employed 40hrs + a week for the past 4 years as a Union Carpenter. We've been building car dealerships, entertainment facilities, etc. Last I checked, dealers don't build dealerships when they aren't selling cars. FYI its a VW dealership so no, gov bailout money. I've been looking at homes in the $175k-$230k range, they normally sell in weeks. I go to a local casino, place is always packed. Economy seems ok in this area. When a candidate outright states he wants to end Unions and you are a Union worker, guess what. The Republicans need to adapt or they are going to continue to see the result that they received Tuesday. Young people have grown up in an era where "alternative" lifestyles are the norm and see the Republican opposition to it as archaic. They cling heavily to religion and the U.S. is factually moving away from it. Then they have assinine candidates claiming rape is "god's will" further alienates them. They lost it more than Obama won it. Romney couldn't even win Mass for cryin' out loud.

Sorry about the one paragraph, writing skills go out the window when i start ranting. I am surprised i even put a period in there somewhere. :D

roflmao.....