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Hank70SS 12-23-2015 04:21 PM

Is this considered a frame-off restoration?
 
Decided I couldn't put it off any longer so started the remodel of the shower. Just a small stall shower in the master bath. Previous owners had it sprayed at one point but that was starting to peel off, especially the base. Lynda said just put in a liner it will be cheaper and easier than new tile. True but all the hard work is removing the old tile. Once that's done I might as well do it right and put in real tile.

Like I said, removing the old stuff is the hard part. Sheet rock, metal lath, mortar and tile. Altogether close to 1.5" thick. A 3 lb sledge just bounces off the first few blows then eventually it starts to crack. I've done 2 walls and part of the 3rd. Already hauled a few hundred pounds of busted tile and mortar out. Can't wait until I have to start busting out the base. That should really be fun.

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flash 12-23-2015 05:43 PM

I need to do that in my bathroom except mine is only sheetrock and some kind of tile board so demo on mine will be easy .
Will you post pics as you start the rebuild phase of your frame off so I can see how to do mine ?

FlintTony 12-23-2015 05:56 PM

Looks like you just bought yourself a whole bunch of work Hank. Good luck.

Ken Hayes 12-23-2015 07:11 PM

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2010 we took out the tub and put in a shower instead. Removed soffit above where tub was, installed fan/light, all new sheet rock, made a in-wall between studs 48" tall cabinet with glass shelves for the wife, new toilet, vanity, sink and tile floor.

Ken Hayes 12-23-2015 07:13 PM

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More pics.

chevymaher 12-23-2015 07:43 PM

Very nice job. That is on the long list here of things to do. Get rid of the tub and put a nice shower like that in.

FlintTony 12-24-2015 04:13 AM

Ken, your water closet (toilet) is set close to the vanity like mine in Fla. Where is your paper holder? One of those free-standing ones? Good job. Looks professional.

Hank70SS 12-24-2015 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by FlintTony (Post 59609)
Looks like you just bought yourself a whole bunch of work Hank. Good luck.

A lot harder removing that old tile than I thought. Got a pry bar behind the tile and tried to pop it off. The stud bowed and knocked a tile loose at the floor on the other side. Just glad it didn't crack the plaster. Our walls are sheetrock with a skim coat of wet plaster.

Ken your bathroom looks great. I found a 'niche' that goes between the studs in the shower. You can apply tile directly to it. They also make a base that you can be tiled so you don't have to form a base with mortar. Not sure what I'll do with the floor. Once I remove the vanity I'll see how easy it is to pull up the old tile floor. Hopefully mine will turn out at least half as good as yours.

I will post pictures, hope I remember to take some. Read and watched some videos. Time consuming but not that hard once all the old stuff is removed.

shadowgray396 12-24-2015 09:03 AM

I have to do the same thing. Wish I could make the shower larger, but that would require gutting both bath rooms and starting over on both or moving a wall in the master bedroom. Good luck on the project.

Hank70SS 12-24-2015 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by shadowgray396 (Post 59619)
I have to do the same thing. Wish I could make the shower larger, but that would require gutting both bath rooms and starting over on both or moving a wall in the master bedroom. Good luck on the project.

I'd like to make ours larger too. I could move a wall inside the bathroom but it's the one with plumbing in it and electrical. Redoing the plumbing is out of the question, our bedroom and bathroom are over the family room. I spent too much time redoing the ceiling there to mess with the plumbing above it.

Ken Hayes 12-25-2015 08:44 AM

Tony, the side of the toilet is about 12" from the vanity. Mounted the holder right onto the side of the vanity.

Hank, that niche in the shower is in between the wall studs. Judy uses it for shampoo bottles and soap dish. The floor pan is made out of fiberglass, sitting on a sand & mortar base. Shower doors are heavy duty 5/16" glass. All the fixtures are done in brushed nickel. Floor is 12"x12" tiled.

My brother inlaw redid his downstairs with a shower that was 8'x8' with 4 rain type shower heads in the ceiling and body washes in the walls. You could have a freekin party in there. After a few years he finally came to his senses and remade it a lot smaller.

Hank70SS 01-09-2016 07:41 AM

Looks like this job is going to be harder than I thought. Haven't done much last few weeks. Our daughter was here the week before Christmas. Then Christmas, New years and a sinus and bronchial infection that's still not cleared up.

I did finish pulling tile off the walls up to the shower door. Door has to come off before I can finish taking the tile down. The base may not be as hard as I though. I got a pry bar under a corner and was able to lift it and snap off a good size chunk.

So the hard part, shopping for tile with Lynda. I'm ready to just go buy a liner and slap it in. I show her some tiles and say this would look good in the shower. What about the floor she says. Okay this would work I tell her. She says well what about the counter top, you'll never find anything to match. AHH! She doesn't want this, she doesn't want that. If you want granite or quartz you're stuck with what nature gives you. Just because it doesn't match doesn't mean it won't go together. She must have some vision in her head. I don't know what it is and she can't tell me.

Hank70SS 03-10-2016 06:12 PM

So it's been a low priority, slow job but the shower is done. Ripped up the tile floor in the bathroom today. Not fun hauling all that crap from the 2nd floor to the 1st floor then down to the family room then outside.

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Backside of shower. Some dumb ass, I won't mention any names but his initials are "Hank", didn't think things through. The sheetrock, metal lathe, mortar and tile removed were a lot thicker than the cement board, thin set mortar and tile that replaced it. That left the faucet sticking out too far for the trim kit to fit. Had to open the wall and block the valve assembly to pull it in.

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To be continued...


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Hank70SS 03-10-2016 06:12 PM

This is, obviously where the vanity goes. We found a vanity and counter top Lynda wants. Old vanity was 48" with center doors and drawers on each side. New vanity is basically a 30" cabinet with 2 doors on the left and an 18" cabinet with 4 drawers on the right. A quartz counter top with sink offset to left over the 30: cabinet. Sounds great, except. Except drain pipe comes up right where the 2 cabinets join and cold water inside the 18" cabinet. That won't work so I have to cut out sub-floor and move the plumbing to the left under the new sink.

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I may have to cut out the sub-floor and replace the toilet flange too. It sits 1.5" above the sub-floor. The new cement board and tile will be around 3/4" so the flange may sit too high. I'll have to drag out the toilet and measure the bottom drain flange and see.

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Removed trim around the window so I could measure the rough opening. Only window in the house that I haven't replaced. Figured I better do it now. That's it for now

FlintTony 03-10-2016 06:35 PM

Shower looks real nice Hank. You do good work.


The closet flange should sit on top of the tile.

flash 03-10-2016 07:39 PM

That does look nice .

Hank70SS 03-10-2016 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FlintTony (Post 60130)
Shower looks real nice Hank. You do good work.


The closet flange should sit on top of the tile.

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Originally Posted by flash (Post 60131)
That does look nice .

Thanks guys. I know the flange should be on top of the tile. Just worried it may be too high above the tile. The new floor won't be as high as the old one.

shadowgray396 03-11-2016 03:28 PM

Class "A" job :banana:.


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