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Old 12-02-2010, 01:09 PM
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This might be a little long but here goes
I have a 71 chevelle with manual drums on it now
I already bought 2"drop b-body spindles and a baer track system fit to them only missing rotors.
I knew ATS spindle were available but dont have the cash for all that so this is what I got.

If I read correctly keeping the stock spindle and using tall ball joints for the upper and lower with an aftermarket adjustable upper arm would be way better than the b-body spindle is this right?
Next ? would be has anyone made a baer track system fit the drum spindle,are brackets available.I still want to use the 13"rotors and havent made any decisions on wheels but will definitely be at least 17s.
Hopefully someone can steer me in the right direction!
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Old 12-02-2010, 01:13 PM
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I can't "steer" you in the right direction when it comes to suspension work,but I can welcome you to the forum!
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Old 12-02-2010, 01:28 PM
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Hi kustom71, I can't help either. Hopefully Derek will see this soon, he's our resident suspension expert.
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Old 12-02-2010, 07:56 PM
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This might be a little long but here goes
I have a 71 chevelle with manual drums on it now
I already bought 2"drop b-body spindles and a baer track system fit to them only missing rotors.
I knew ATS spindle were available but dont have the cash for all that so this is what I got.

If I read correctly keeping the stock spindle and using tall ball joints for the upper and lower with an aftermarket adjustable upper arm would be way better than the b-body spindle is this right?
Next ? would be has anyone made a baer track system fit the drum spindle,are brackets available.I still want to use the 13"rotors and havent made any decisions on wheels but will definitely be at least 17s.
Hopefully someone can steer me in the right direction!
Thanks
The stock spindle/tall balljoint is definitely better than B-spindles, but the difference is more in the feel and predictability than overall mechanical grip... both improve the camber curve, which improves grip (explained HERE ), but neither are perfect. Tall balljoints are not quite tall enough, and B-spindles are too tall.

The most notable difference is the location of the steer arm.

Tall balljoints move the steer arm upward by 1/2", which nearly eliminates all factory bumpsteer. This is good... makes the car more predictable over rough surfaces.
B-body spindles locate the steer arm too low, which doubles the factory bumpsteer, making the car less predictable on rough surfaces... they're also too long, which slows the turning ratio, and widens the turning radius.
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Old 12-02-2010, 09:55 PM
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The stock spindle/tall balljoint is definitely better than B-spindles, but the difference is more in the feel and predictability than overall mechanical grip... both improve the camber curve, which improves grip (explained HERE ), but neither are perfect. Tall balljoints are not quite tall enough, and B-spindles are too tall.

The most notable difference is the location of the steer arm.

Tall balljoints move the steer arm upward by 1/2", which nearly eliminates all factory bumpsteer. This is good... makes the car more predictable over rough surfaces.
B-body spindles locate the steer arm too low, which doubles the factory bumpsteer, making the car less predictable on rough surfaces... they're also too long, which slows the turning ratio, and widens the turning radius.
What he said.
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Old 12-03-2010, 10:01 AM
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Thanks for the welcoming
Great site
Thanks for the replies too

Does anyone have any knowledge about the brakes I spoke?
I have these already so I figured If I can use them with the drum spindle maybe it isnt a total failure.
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Old 07-22-2012, 06:36 PM
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Would adding only the tall upper ball joints help the steering geometry? Predictibility on turn entry?
I'm in a stock class and cannot weld or change the lower ball joint. Tall upper is a bolt in and OK.
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