Yes,another rant from Grandsport!

[Ms Grumpy]

Originally Posted by grandsport

I'll let the wife and her work that out.I think she was more upset at the fact that she wasn't invited.

Sounds like both of you may have been a little jealous that you weren't invited.

[grandsport]

Originally Posted by Ms Grumpy

Sounds like both of you may have been a little jealous that you weren't invited.

Dam straight,there was unlimited beer in that box.

[Keith]

We taught our 3 kids responsibility at an early age. When they were old enough, they got jobs so that they didn't have to be coming to Mom and Dad for spending money. They knew it wasn't going to be there. They learned pretty quickly how fast a week's pay can disappear. Better to learn it at 14 as 35. Making life easy and bailing kids out backfires just about every time. I've seen it far to often. That's not to say that we never help our kids. We help when we feel it is appropriate and it has worked well for us.

[Highway Star]

Gary, some of this is chalked up to society. It seems like people today have no sense of what things are really worth, and that the things some people have were EARNED over years and years of hard work and sacrifice. This has to be also partly due to a stronger desire and popularity of instant gratification. It doesn't feel good to pay off your credit card, you don't get anything tangible from it...it feels good to blow $2500 on a McCartney concert.

Is she mature enough to have a real conversation about this? What about the both of them...maybe together they'd be more receptive. Remind them that donating $ as their parents AT LEAST halfway entitles you and Maureen to some sort of say so in their spending habits. You have to tell them that you don't agree with some of their choices...because they aren't wise choices. Tell them you can't help anymore unless they smarten up a little. It has to be done or it will perpetuate.