What a pleasure...

[Hank70SS]

I don't manicure my lawn but this is a subdivision and I try to maintain my house and property like the other homes. No one has a manicured lawn here but how hard is it to cut the grass once a week? You couldn't even see the front of the house next store because of the overgrown bushes and trees planted 3' from the house. If it was an elderly couple next store I would have been more than willing to help them do the work they weren't capable of. I used my truck to help the new neighbors pull out the overgrown mess that was there. Two adults, younger than us and two teenagers and no one has time to cut the grass?

Sorry, everybody has their priorities but when you move into a sub you should be willing to try and maintain your property in a fashion similar to the surrounding homes. One dump can ruin the looks and resale value of the other homes. If yard work is not your thing, fine, live some where where it's not expected. The people across the street sit on the front lawn pulling weeds by hand. I'm not that fanatical, if the fertilizer/weed killer doesn't take care of it, oh well, at least the weeds we have aren't 6" tall.

[grandsport]

I'm sure my neighbors were talking last night as I was running a leaf blower and lawnmower until 11pm.

[Rank]

... I find the rumble from my 60 gallon compressor much more comforting than the electric guitar down the street .... but I dont lose any sleep over either .... but the barking chiahuahua of the minister next door .... welp I'll just say God works in strange ways! LOL

[Rank]

Originally Posted by Hank70SS

I don't manicure my lawn but this is a subdivision and I try to maintain my house and property like the other homes. No one has a manicured lawn here but how hard is it to cut the grass once a week? You couldn't even see the front of the house next store because of the overgrown bushes and trees planted 3' from the house. If it was an elderly couple next store I would have been more than willing to help them do the work they weren't capable of. I used my truck to help the new neighbors pull out the overgrown mess that was there. Two adults, younger than us and two teenagers and no one has time to cut the grass?

Sorry, everybody has their priorities but when you move into a sub you should be willing to try and maintain your property in a fashion similar to the surrounding homes. One dump can ruin the looks and resale value of the other homes. If yard work is not your thing, fine, live some where where it's not expected. The people across the street sit on the front lawn pulling weeds by hand. I'm not that fanatical, if the fertilizer/weed killer doesn't take care of it, oh well, at least the weeds we have aren't 6" tall.

Hank ... I have only lived in different subdivisions since 1954 but I am sure there is something about the yellow body with white trim that I have painted all my homes that pisses someone, somewhere off .... I am just saying it is not healthy to lose sleep over insignifcant matters.

Now if your neighbor was mean, violent, or dangerous then it would be a different issue, would it not?

[Hank70SS]

Originally Posted by Rank

Hank ... I have only lived in different subdivisions since 1954 but I am sure there is something about the yellow body with white trim that I have painted all my homes that pisses someone, somewhere off .... I am just saying it is not healthy to lose sleep over insignifcant matters.

Now if your neighbor was mean, violent, or dangerous then it would be a different issue, would it not?

Never said I lost any sleep over it. It also wasn't the reason I had little to do with them. There were other things going on that made me decide I didn't want to associate with them, that's a whole different story. I just said it's nice to have neighbors that are friendly and do maintain their house. Some people might think my house is a dump, it's not the nicest place in the neighborhood but I don't think it's the worst either.

[RBeckman]

Say what you want about Home Owners Associations, I have lived in sub divisions controlled by HOA's for the last 20 years and why some of the rules suck at least the houses are under the same rules. I have only had few violations (written notices) in the last 20 years, and they were for having my boat sitting in the driveway for over 48 hours. I've been lucky for the last 20 years as I have pretty good neighbors....thank god no Crack heads that I know of.

My first house when I was 25, the guy next door had a motor and lawn mower sitting in his front yard for over 3 years that were no good and he would just mow around them and when I went to sell my house one of the deals fell through because of that house. I went over and talked to him and told him what happened and asked if he had any problem with me helping him move the stuff and he said take it to junk yard if you want....so I did and no problems. He just said he had no way to get it out of there and was thankful that I did. My dog would always go into his yard and due it business so I can't complain to much.

Hank, glad you have a good neighbor now, I thought that house had a lot of potential and I guess the new people did as well. I bet Owen will like taking a ride in the Chevelle when you are able...you may make him a car guy of the 2020's and he'll want a Chevelle because Hank took him for a ride in his when he was a kid. My first rides in a Musule car was a 70 Trans Am...some day I will have one, as long as the clock works..lol

[Rank]

Originally Posted by Hank70SS

Never said I lost any sleep over it. It also wasn't the reason I had little to do with them. There were other things going on that made me decide I didn't want to associate with them, that's a whole different story. I just said it's nice to have neighbors that are friendly and do maintain their house. Some people might think my house is a dump, it's not the nicest place in the neighborhood but I don't think it's the worst either.

No you never actually said you lost sleep over the lifestyles of your neighbors Hank but, lets face it, it consumes you to a degree ... not that that is wrong, but as far as your concern if your house NOT the worst and your acceptance (sadly) that its not the best ... I would think those are both conditions that would be subjective to one's individual tastes and poersonal values as to what is important in life.

.... now if YOUR house was yellow with white trim then this discussion would be a mute issue.LOL

[Hank70SS]

I would have preferred a yellow house with white trim. In fact there is one up around the corner. We all have our priorities. One of mine is not living next to what looks like an abandoned house. In fact things didn't look much different next door while the house sat vacant for 11 months. If that stuff is okay with you great, because I don't want to accept it doesn't mean I have a problem or something is wrong with me. If it does than I guess there are a lot of other people out there with the same 'issues'.

[Rank]

Why would I (or you) consider it a direct attack upon me if the neighbor's house is abandoned or the weeds are nearing 6" tall? Why should I even care, its not my property .... the guy that owns the property has the right to let it degrade ..... thats called property rights. If it was a health issue then the tables change, but poor taste is not a health issue.

I would think I would be considered an "elitist" if I assumed my values need to be shared by all my neighbors and those that do not conform would be the receipents of my scorn ....... I was kidding about yellow houses with white trim being the way to go! And those neighbors that DONT have a Chevelle in the garage, welp I still like 'em! LOL

[Hank70SS]

I don't think I said my neighbors actions were a direct attack on me and I certainly never felt they were. That doesn't mean that their actions don't affect me. Our yard, their yard and the yard behind us all come together in an open are over 1 & 1/2 acres with no fences. If one of us chooses to raise dandelions for a living then it does affect the others. It destroys the look of the nice area we can all enjoy. Maybe I'm wrong but then so are the neighbors behind us and the 2 across the street that called the township regarding the condition of that property. Maybe not in your mind, but the look of one house can detract from the others and affect their property values.

So maybe the 4 of us are wrong. I guess then so are the thousands of people that are willing to live with HOAs and all their restrictions. Why do so many local governments have zoning laws/regulations regarding property maintenance and will maintain it for you and slap the bill on your taxes if you choose not to do it?

Clearly you don't care what you live next to and think it's none of your business. I think you'd be surprised at how many people prefer not to live next to a dump and I happen to be one of them. So we've both expressed our opinion on the subject. Let's just say we agree to disagree on this. You think I'm wrong, I don't and I don't see that changing. It's time to move on.

Of course you're free to add your 'closing arguments' then let's put it to rest.