What a pleasure...

[Rank]

Why would I (or you) consider it a direct attack upon me if the neighbor's house is abandoned or the weeds are nearing 6" tall? Why should I even care, its not my property .... the guy that owns the property has the right to let it degrade ..... thats called property rights. If it was a health issue then the tables change, but poor taste is not a health issue.

I would think I would be considered an "elitist" if I assumed my values need to be shared by all my neighbors and those that do not conform would be the receipents of my scorn ....... I was kidding about yellow houses with white trim being the way to go! And those neighbors that DONT have a Chevelle in the garage, welp I still like 'em! LOL

[Hank70SS]

I don't think I said my neighbors actions were a direct attack on me and I certainly never felt they were. That doesn't mean that their actions don't affect me. Our yard, their yard and the yard behind us all come together in an open are over 1 & 1/2 acres with no fences. If one of us chooses to raise dandelions for a living then it does affect the others. It destroys the look of the nice area we can all enjoy. Maybe I'm wrong but then so are the neighbors behind us and the 2 across the street that called the township regarding the condition of that property. Maybe not in your mind, but the look of one house can detract from the others and affect their property values.

So maybe the 4 of us are wrong. I guess then so are the thousands of people that are willing to live with HOAs and all their restrictions. Why do so many local governments have zoning laws/regulations regarding property maintenance and will maintain it for you and slap the bill on your taxes if you choose not to do it?

Clearly you don't care what you live next to and think it's none of your business. I think you'd be surprised at how many people prefer not to live next to a dump and I happen to be one of them. So we've both expressed our opinion on the subject. Let's just say we agree to disagree on this. You think I'm wrong, I don't and I don't see that changing. It's time to move on.

Of course you're free to add your 'closing arguments' then let's put it to rest.

[RBeckman]

Hank, I think it's our mid western up bringing because while I think people have the right to do what they want with their property they need to consider others and the property values. Your old neighbors did not care and it showed as they let a nice house go to hell and they lost their asses because of it. With all the traveling I've done in the past I have been surprised on some of the lack of zoning laws in some counties.

In our neighbor hood in the last 9 years I have only known of two incidents where the HOA had to step in and they ended up be renters who did not care and it got pretty bad before they jumped in. I was Treasure of the HOA for 4 years and the board did not get involved unless their was complaints.

To each his own

[Rank]

[QUOTE=Hank70SS;29129]I don't think I said my neighbors actions were a direct attack on me and I certainly never felt they were. That doesn't mean that their actions don't affect me. Our yard, their yard and the yard behind us all come together in an open are over 1 & 1/2 acres with no fences. If one of us chooses to raise dandelions for a living then it does affect the others. It destroys the look of the nice area we can all enjoy. Maybe I'm wrong but then so are the neighbors behind us and the 2 across the street that called the township regarding the condition of that property. Maybe not in your mind, but the look of one house can detract from the others and affect their property values.

So maybe the 4 of us are wrong. I guess then so are the thousands of people that are willing to live with HOAs and all their restrictions. Why do so many local governments have zoning laws/regulations regarding property maintenance and will maintain it for you and slap the bill on your taxes if you choose not to do it?

Clearly you don't care what you live next to and think it's none of your business. I think you'd be surprised at how many people prefer not to live next to a dump and I happen to be one of them. So we've both expressed our opinion on the subject. Let's just say we agree to disagree on this. You think I'm wrong, I don't and I don't see that changing. It's time to move on.Of course you're free to add your 'closing arguments' then let's put it to rest.[/QUOTE

QUOTELived in the city with 55' wide lots for over 20 years. Had some great neighbors and some, so so. I use to snow blow about 5 houses on our side, one on the other side. Clean the gutters for the woman across the street, fix her garage door opener, etc. It was a nice neighborhood. We just always wanted a little more space, a little more openness. We left some good people behind but have made some really good friends hereQUOTE

QUOTEThe neighbors across the street are in their 70's, at least he is. He is also crippled from polio as a child. I've helped him on a number of occasions and never expected anything in return. Now their 40 year old son is living with them and he has helped us several times since I fractured my pelvis. I don't think they're trying to repay the favors, they're just good people and good neighbors.

I also helped the previous neighbors on several occasions, let's just say mechanical ability was not his strong suit. No problem, I didn't expect or want anything in turn. There is a drain pipe under the road out front that divides our properties. Also a utility pole at the back that divides our properties and the yard behind us. For the first 3 years I pushed the hand mower up and down the hill around the drain pipe. Then used the weed wacker there and around the utility pole. It takes well over an hour with the weed wacker and hand mower in our yard. Then you get to sit on the lawn mower to cut the rest. No problem, I'm there, I'll take care of it. Maybe next time you'll do it. Nope, 3 years and they never came within 3 feet of the pole or drain pipe. So I quit and took care of my property and my property only. We're pushing 60 years old and they had 4 capable people all younger than us.

Now the new neighbors moved in and I helped them pull a punch of overgrown bushes out with my 4x4 pickup. Don't want or expect anything but again he has helped us with some things I can't do right now. Anyway, we now have nice neighbors all the way around us. We'll help them if and when we can and I'm sure they'll do the same. They don't have to but it's nice to know they're willing to. As I said when I started the post it's a pleasure. It's a pleasure to have neighbors that are friendly. A pleasure to know that if you do need help at times there are people that are more than willing to lend a hand. A pleasure to walk outside and see a friendly face and someone that you want to talk to and be friends with. QUOTE


Hank...... so much for " moving on" and "putting it to rest" LOL

[Hank70SS]

Originally Posted by Rank

Hank...... so much for " moving on" and "putting it to rest" LOL

True, but I wasn't debating you regarding our different opinions on the subject. I was replying to several other members and their comments.